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Animal Shelter Allegations

Last post 10-09-2006, 5:25 PM by jody. 65 replies.
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  •  08-13-2006, 8:12 PM 756018 in reply to 752892

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    Unless you know all of the fact don't be so quick to judge.  She did not try to give the Deimlers another dog. Don't beleive everything you read.

    I am sick of people complaining about one animal group or another.  The Humane Society was dealt a raw deal in the press lately.  I'd like to see members of "other shelters" do such a good job with what they are given. Why can't animal people stick together.  We all know how diffecult it is dealing with people.  The animals are easy.  I also think PAWS has been a great service to the community, especially the feral cat population.  

    Build each other up , don't tear each other down.

  •  08-14-2006, 1:12 PM 757776 in reply to 754338

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    I'm not bitter & I'm not unhappy. If anyone is holding grudges it is for all the Puppies, Kittens, Dogs & Cats that have died in Lori's care or within days of adoption because Lori doesn't get them the medical care that they need. I can name situations but I won't. It doesn't do any good. When people are giving opinions here that are not the same as yours its complaining so what's the use.

    It's unfortutate that this story aired at 11:00 P.M. because most working people don't stay up to see the news this late. I'm sure there would have been a lot more people responding if it had been on the 6:00 news. Ben, why don't you put it on the 6:00 news! As ms249 said its such a shame that people are overlooking how many dogs & kittens are dying within days of being adopted from this facility.

    If you take on the responsibility of rescuing animals you need to get them the proper care that they need, if you do not & they end up dying because of it what exactly are you accomplishing?

    Its a waste of time to even post anything here because nothing is going to be done anyway.

     

     

  •  08-14-2006, 7:47 PM 759675 in reply to 754338

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    I don't know what Lori Johnston you know, but the one I know is a saint to the many, many animals who have come through Molly's Place.  She is caring and loving to every one of them.  I've watched her spend hours warming a litter of kittens who were found in a box; feeding a runt round the clock to get him stronger; taking animals home with her to keep an eye on them...yes, this is a "selfish, heartless & uncaring" person.  Molly's Place is unique.  If you haven't been there, please stop by and see for yourself.  You will be greeted by a dozen tail-wagging, happy dogs who have been given an opportunity at life.  So, bash us all you want.  We're trying to offer a solution.

  •  08-14-2006, 8:18 PM 759910 in reply to 748947

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    After reading all the negative comments about the adoption process and lack of information, I went back through all the information we received when we adopted our two puppies and a 10-year old.  Maybe I was lucky but there was background information, a medical record of the vaccinations, microchip documentation and pet insurance.  More likely, this is what everyone is given with each adoption!  They were seen by a vet immediately after their adoption and he found them to be in excellent health. 

    One more note about Rex, the escape artist...he was loose once again the week of July 17.  This time three of the Deimler's 7 children were able to catch him about five blocks from their home.  One child stayed with the dog while two others went home to get a collar and lead.  Now, we not only have a dog running loose, but we have three young kids running after him.  Once again, the three year old was blamed for letting him out.  You be the judge...was Lori Johnston so wrong in her decision?

  •  08-14-2006, 9:55 PM 760394 in reply to 757776

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    As a long time volunteer and supporter of Molly’s Place, I would like to provide some facts that are pertinent to the news stories and allegations made recently against the organization. In giving these facts I am hoping to clear up some of the questions, accusations, and confusion surrounding these allegations.

    No one at Molly’s Place EVER attempted to give or sell any dog to the Deimlers. Molly’s Place would never place any animal in jeopardy by putting it in the Deimlers’ care. The Deimlers claim to love Rex, but owning a pet requires more than love. Responsible pet ownership requires changing your pet’s collar as he or she grows so he or she doesn’t slowly choke to death. Responsible pet owners maintain healthy pets by keeping them free of fleas & ticks and current on vaccinations. Responsible pet owners do not contribute to the overpopulation problem by not spaying or neutering their pets and allowing them to run uncontrolled to produce more unwanted, homeless pets. Responsible pet owners keep identification on their dogs so in the event that they are lost they can be returned to their home since they cannot speak for themselves. Responsible pet owners ensure their pets safety by not allowing them to run in the streets where they could be killed or create an accident causing someone else to be killed. The Deimlers did none of these things.

    The Deimlers’ dog was NEVER dyed. If the Deimlers had ever bothered to groom their dog, they would know the undercoat is a lighter color. Any groomer could verify this fact. The Deimlers received the dog back in far better condition than when he was turned into Molly’s Place as a stray.

    Everyone at Molly’s Place was saddened to hear through the media that the Shugharts’ puppy had been euthanized. In response to the media report the following are the facts regarding this adoption:

    The Shugharts, as indicated on their adoption papers, adopted an eight-week-old puppy, not a six-week-old puppy. The Shugharts weren’t told they had to wait to adopt their puppy because it wasn’t old enough; they were told they had to wait to adopt their puppy until she was spayed. The "mysterious scar" on the puppy’s underbelly was a SPAY scar, not an umbilical hernia operation scar. The spay surgery was confirmed by the spay certificate, which was provided to the Shugharts with the puppy’s medical records at the time of adoption.

    What happened to the Shugharts' puppy is extremely unfortunate and tragic. What one needs to keep in mind, however, is that the puppy was healthy at the time of the adoption. When she became sick, it was the Shugharts’ responsibility to seek veterinary care for her, and I think it is important to point out that every animal adopted from Molly’s Place is provided with 30 days of a pet insurance policy to make it easier for the new owners to obtain veterinary care for them if needed. This service is provided as a courtesy and to help to insure that the pets will receive proper care, not because any animal from Molly’s Place is expected to become ill after adoption. It is impossible to guarantee the health of a pet adopted or purchased from any shelter or breeder, and it is ridiculous to assume that because the puppy became ill after being adopted (and being in the new owner’s home) that she was sick at the time of adoption. Molly’s Place was not in any way dishonest with the Shugarts, and they were provided with the known medical records of the dog at the time of adoption. These puppies are rescued from kill shelters. They come from unknown origins. They do not have any medical history other than the medical history they acquire at Molly’s Place.

    The Shugharts contacted Molly’s Place a few days after adopting the puppy to inform them the puppy wasn’t eating and didn’t seem to be feeling well. Molly’s Place advised the Shugharts to either take the puppy to a veterinarian immediately or to return her to Molly’s Place. What the Shugharts did with the puppy after they adopted her was their decision and responsibility.

    Regardless of the media reports and the handful of negative comments on this forum, Molly’s Place is in the business of uniting people with pets. In the last year Molly’s Place has done this successfully over 2,000 times with less than one percent complaints.

    Maybe the reason Molly’s Place is perceived as having a larger volume of complaints, (although, I’m still waiting to see this slew of supposed LEGITIMATE complaints) is because Molly’s Place rescues and adopts such a large number of animals. I’m curious to know exactly how many animals the other shelters/groups are actually placing into homes and how many complaints people have made against them.

    For all of the negative reporting, Molly’s Place must be doing something right.

  •  08-15-2006, 8:38 AM 761393 in reply to 748618

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    What exactly did the West Shore Humane Society mean when they said they have "suspended its dealings" with Molly's Place?  Last year they transferred only 5 very hard to place (sick, old, special needs) dogs to Molly's, all of which were adopted into good loving families.  The only other "dealings" they have with Molly's Place are calling them to let them know they have an animal with a Molly's microchip, if they intend not to call Molly's when an animal comes in with a microchip registered to Molly's Place they will not only be jeopardizing the life of that animal but, they will also be opening the door for theft charges against them.

     

    It is also important to point out how many people come into Molly’s Place complaining about the other rescues in our area.  Lori’s response is “we all may do things differently but we all do the best possible job we can to help the animals”.  It’s sad to see anyone that volunteers at any rescue/shelter and knows how BIG the problem of unwanted animals is would bash another rescue, especially one with such a high success rate.

     

    Since Ben Russell only reports half the facts, its important to mention when the Shugharts called Molly’s Place to tell Lori their puppy was sick, she told them to take it to the vet ASAP, they wanted to wait till its next round of shots were due in approx. 1 month.  They were told not to wait, they responded saying they didn’t think they should have to take a puppy they’ve only had a few days to the vet, at that time Lori offered to take the puppy back, the Shugharts hung up on her.

     

     

    I am amazed that a WHP reporter wouldn't have researched this info!

     

    Ben Russell why didn't you ask Lori or her attorney specific questions regarding the Shugharts puppy?

     

    Please explain why your report made mention of "many" other reports of sick puppies but did not identify the exact number, names, or specific problems of any of these alleged reports?

     

    I await your response.

  •  08-16-2006, 10:31 AM 766817 in reply to 761393

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    I'm a former volunteer at Molly's.   When someone has volunteered in any animal org, they see what goes on.  Its a horrible reality to know what these animals go thru, and it is only in caring that any work is done.

    Unfortunately, I saw alot of things I did not like to see, which caused me to leave my volunteer effort.  I don't think what I experienced was any different than what any of the orgs experience.   At times over population of animals, at times sickness in animals, at other times, shortness of volunteers.   As it turns out, I'm not one of the kind that should be a volunteer for inability to deal with all of the above.

    I've known Lori for years and tho many of the animal orgs and their owners are a bit fanatical and do tend to make their own rules, the true good is always for the animal.  I don't have a problem with that.  I do however have a problem with these organizations that charge extra money because an anmial "looks" like a purebred.   And that's what they do.  Looking for extra money where they can get away with it, when it costs no more to ready a supposed purebred for adoption, than a mutt.

    The previous org I volunteered for supposedly had one caregiver that euthanized animals and buried them in the backyard or stored them in the freezer til trash day.  I'm not saying its right, because I surely don't think it is.  Merely, the day to day of what goes on isn't seen to most and we can't be too quick to judge.   We don't know all the facts.

     

  •  08-16-2006, 12:00 PM 767372 in reply to 749677

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    You've stated that your cousin adopted a Great Dane from Molly's Place Pet Adoption Center. 

    How was your cousin's experience? 

    Isn't it true that their experience was so possitive that they came back to adopt another dog?

    Isn't it also true that they stop in MP every so often, just to visit with the animals?

    Seems odd that you would have omitted those facts in your post.

    I think YOU should make sure that you have YOUR facts straight,.

  •  08-16-2006, 12:52 PM 767654 in reply to 761393

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    It is my understanding that the WS Humane Society did NOT say that they were "suspending their dealings" with Molly's Place.  It was taken out of context and misquoted.  As we have learned, you can't beleive everything that you read.

     

  •  08-16-2006, 1:08 PM 767765 in reply to 760394

    Does anyone know if the Deimlers know the Shugharts?

    Well written!

    Does anyone know if the Deimlers know the Shugharts?  That would be interesting to know.

  •  08-16-2006, 1:24 PM 767859 in reply to 767372

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    Don't know who you are talking about lady but it sure isn't my cousin.

    They never came back to adopt another dog or vist your facility.

    What do you guys do, make up stories or something. Don't you have anythig better to do!

    I really hope you guys get what you deserve!

  •  08-16-2006, 1:45 PM 767973 in reply to 748618

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    SHAME ON YOU CHANNEL 21.... Shame on you.. Shame on you for not getting the facts.

    Shame on you for not being FAIR... AND ... BALANCED...

     

    Shame on you for not checking with the neighbors to find out how many times this dog was running wild.... HINT HINT....or as you called it ... ON A WALK ABOUT..... How one sided...

     

    If a child went on a Walk About.... as many times as this poor puppy ...would you have still been so one sided? Think Not!!!!

     

    Maybe you should do some more investigating and get your facts straight. ...HINT HINT... Maybe your reporter should go on a Walk About and be Fair and Balanced....

     

    Your ratings must be very low to stoop this low...

     

    Maybe Molly's has saved hundreds and hundreds of animals .. that otherwise would have been euthanized.....KILLED by other shelters... What good do you expect to come from this one sided UNFAIR AND UNBALANCED piece of garbage.DogDog

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  •  08-16-2006, 2:53 PM 768340 in reply to 767973

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    The forums are not a place to cast blame or to go back and forth insulting each other.

    This is a place were you can express your thoughts and ideas on the topics presented, but no one has the right to attack anyone else on these forums.

    There is a report abuse link at the bottom of every post. This is available for any CBS 21 Community member to use.

    Continue discussing the topics, but if attacks continue action will be taken.

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  •  08-16-2006, 5:44 PM 769210 in reply to 748618

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    Thank you Ben. I am scared to death. My mok bought a beautiful little puppy from Molly's on Father's day. Her name is Iris Lilly. She is a beautiful little girl, but is very thin and seems "sickly". I am calling my mom as we speak and telling her that she may want to have the baby checked.

    When we got her, she was in a urine filled glass cage with about 15 pups. She was soaked with urine and just snuggled as if never held before. It smelled horrible in there. Dogs peeing and pooping all over. There must've been 20-30 loose dogs. Not including all the penned ones. We decided to get the puppy and the owver was RUDE as rude can be. Just nasty and ripped Iris around like a rag doll. She was spayed before we brought her home which leads me to believe that she could be ill. She is thin..too think for a dog of her "size". She is to be a Coonhound, Lab & german Shepard mix. She is getting bigger, but never seems to gain weight. When we first brought her home, she ate forever. And DRINK....my God, gallons a day.

    I was NOT impressed with Molly's and would NEVER recommend them to anyone. If anyone needs help in fighting the Molly's battle, I would sure sign up.

    Molly owners....take your guys and gals and have them checked. Isn't it worth it to REALLY save their lives? Best of luck to all of you...

  •  08-16-2006, 10:01 PM 770069 in reply to 769210

    Re: Animal Shelter Allegations

    blue76:

    Thank you Ben. I am scared to death. My mok bought a beautiful little puppy from Molly's on Father's day. Her name is Iris Lilly. She is a beautiful little girl, but is very thin and seems "sickly". I am calling my mom as we speak and telling her that she may want to have the baby checked.

    This is EXACTLY the problem.  So you're telling us that your mom has had a dog for 2 months that you have suspected to be sick, but have not taken her to the vet?  But somehow, Molly's Place is to blame?  Shame on you. 

    It has been said before, but bears repeating: if you want to adopt an animal that never gets sick, never misbehaves, and never needs to go to the vet, you should adopt an animal from this place.

    -RGC

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